Pandur EVO

[iceman]

Schlimm genug für einen Transportpanzer - katastrophal für ein Unterstützungsfahrzeug. Keine Ahnung, warum wir unbedingt auf 6x6 bestehen.

Als man die ersten Pandur EVO eingeführt hat, waren das halt noch andere Zeiten.
Das ist jetzt jammern auf hohem Niveau 😔

[theoderich]

Es sind 4,5 und nicht 5,5 Tonnen Nutzlast.

Noch einmal recherchiert: 3,5 t Nutzlast bei 18,5 t höchstzulässigem Gesamtgewicht (ballistischer Schutz Level 3 & Minenschutz > Level 3).

• Griffon: 3 t höhere Nutzlast - 3 t höheres Leergewicht

• Patria 6x6: 5 t höhere Nutzlast - 0,5 t höheres Leergewicht - deutlich schwächere Panzerung (Grundpanzerung & Minenschutz Level 2)

Das ist jetzt jammern auf hohem Niveau 😔

Dem kann man nicht widersprechen. Für die Zwecke des Bundesheeres ist der Pandur EVO optimal.

[Merlin]

Interessanter Kontext zur Pandur SHORAD Variante mit dem RIwP Turm.

General Dynamics debuts Pandur 6×6 SHORAD variant

Moog’s Reconfigurable Integrated-weapons Platform turret was added to the 6x6 vehicle following a US Army pre-solicitation last year.

By ASHLEY ROQUE
on March 21, 2025 at 3:16 PM

GLOBAL FORCE 2025 — General Dynamics Land Systems is rolling out a modified version of its European built Pandur 6X6 combat vehicle, outfitted with a short-range air defense (SHORAD) turret currently in the US Army’s arsenal.

“The intent behind the Pandur is to start looking at how it can fit into the light infantry and the joint forcible entry requirements and operations that the Army has,” Ray Moldovan, the company’s manager for US business development, told Breaking Defense this week. “And currently they don’t have a short-range air defense capability that would basically give that formation the protection that it needs.”

In mid-2024, the service released a notice calling for ideas for potential air defense solutions to protect dismounted maneuver forces, under its Maneuver-SHORAD (M-SHORAD) Increment 4 program. Specifically, the Army was interested in cheaper, smaller options than its Stryker-based “Sergeant Stout” M-SHORAD system, with the new systems able to down unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) groups 1-3, and rotary wing and fixed wing aircraft.

Since GDLS is under contract for Sergeant Stout, it decided to use the same configuration of Moog’s Reconfigurable Integrated-weapons Platform (RIwP) turret for the smaller Pandur vehicle. That turret includes two Raytheon Stinger Vehicle Universal Launchers (SVULs) with each one carrying four surface-to-air missiles suited for faster, lower flying threats. Northrop Grumman’s XM914 30 mm Bushmaster Chain Gun, and an M240 7.62 mm machine gun is also on the turret.

Ray Moldovan, also working on US business development for the company, estimated that the Pandur configuration tips the scales around 40,000 lbs, or roughly 20,000 lbs lighter than the fielded Stryker variant. “We’re looking at lighter weight and greater inter-theater and intra-theater transportability,” Moldovan said.

While the modified vehicle is making its debut at the upcoming Association of the US Army’s Global Force symposium, the company is preparing to transport it to Fort Sill, Okla. for the Maneuver and Fires Integrated Experiment (MFI) where it will be operating alongside the SHORAD version of the Tracked Robot 10-ton (TRX).

“We will show those systems operating as a system of systems in that experiment,” Moldovan said, noting that the SHORAD Pandur variant has room for robotic vehicle operators in the back to operate the TRX.

https://breakingdefense.com/2025/03/gen ... d-variant/

[theoderich]

https://es.linkedin.com/posts/gdels_fei ... 89376-ymHp