Polen: U-Boot-Projekt ORKA

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Polen: U-Boot-Projekt ORKA

http://www.doppeladler.com/forum/viewto ... f=7&t=4255

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Swedish Parliament Discusses the Sale of Södermanland Submarines to Poland

The Swedish government has begun the official process aimed at approving the sale of two Södermanland submarines to Poland. The undertaking is a consequence of a request that had been made by the Polish Ministry of Defence. Defence24.pl was the first to inform that Warsaw would be taking steps to acquire the second-hand Swedish vessels.

The Swedish government has asked the parliament to issue an approval of the sale of two used submarines to Poland: HSwMS “Södermanland” and HSwMS “Östergötland”. The government also indicated that those vessels shall be operated by the Polish Navy. The justification indicates that the Polish government asked for a quote, concerning two Södermanland-class submarines. Considering the above, authorization of transfer of the vessels by the Swedish parliament is required before the gap-filler solution is implemented in case of the “Orka” programme. Relevant documents issued on 9th April this year have been transferred to the Parliament, being an element of the 2020 budget amendment bill.

The problem here may stem from the technical condition of the Södermanland submarines, as HSwMS „Östergötland” has been withdrawn from operations back in 2011 - being used as a source of spares for the sister vessel, the HSwMS „Södermanland”. The latter vessel would need to be upgraded. The plans that had been made earlier assumed that it would be decommissioned in 2021. Most probably, the submarine in question has not been a subject to any major overhauls, due to cost savings. The request submitted to the government directly admits - the extension of the HSwMS „Södermanland” lifecycle would require a lot of spending and this is the main reason withdrawal of this vessel was planned.

The Swedes concluded that the modernization of those vessels would not adequately improve the capabilities of the Swedish Navy. Thus, they have considered the vessels not to have any potential, when it comes to the improvement of Sweden’s naval power.

As it turns out, from the legal point of view, it is theoretically possible to sell the vessels in question to Poland. The budgetary act envisages the option of transferring a state-owned property should it be redundant, if it became useless or if it has not been acquired with the use of public funds.

Unfortunately, as the sale of the submarines would require overhauls and modifications (which could create extra costs), and as HSwMS “Södermanland” is still used in operations, the decision of the government in Stockholm requires parliamentary approval.

Nonetheless, the request notes that the sale must have a commercial nature. Namely, the Swedes would need to receive funds from Poland covering at least the cost of modernization, training and future maintenance. The document does not mention the potential option of leasing the vessels - this, supposedly, was subject to prior consideration. The potential cost of the whole undertaking is also not mentioned there.

https://www.defence24.com/swedish-parli ... to-poland-

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Die polnische Rüstungsbehörde hat heute über die Beschaffungseinleitung für das Programm ORKA informiert. Die Ausschreibung für die neuen U-Boote soll in den nächsten Monaten veröffentlicht werden.

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Entgegen anderslautenden Medienberichten hat das polnische Verteidigungsministerium mitgeteilt, dass der Beschaffungsprozess für das Programm ORKA fortgesetzt wird:

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Polen hat ein Rettungsschiff in Auftrag gegeben, das die Operationen von U-Booten unterstützen soll. Die Beschaffung steht in direktem Zusammenhang mit dem Projekt ORKA:






https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/articl ... jennej-rp/

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In 2012, a programme for the purchase of SSKs for Poland codenamed Orka (ENG: Orca/Killer Whale) was launched. It assumed that Poland would purchase two SSKs by 2022 and a third by 2030. So far, however, no contract has been signed, and it seems that the Orka programme has been postponed.

https://euro-sd.com/2025/03/articles/43 ... ine-force/

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Hanwha Ocean updates its offer for Polish submarine Orka programme

Hanwha Ocean has revealed its updated offer for the supply of future submarines to the Polish Navy under the Orka programme. The South Korean shipbuilder is willing to deliver KSS-III Batch 2 vessels along with an extended MRO (maintenance, repair, and overhaul) package as well as to invest in Polish shipyard infrastructure under the contract.

During a briefing held in early April, Hanwha Ocean presented a new updated timeframe for the delivery of three submarines for Poland. According to the Hanwha representatives, the first vessel could be delivered within six years after signing the contract, and all vessels could be delivered within eight and a half years.

Moreover, Hanwha is offering to lease the decommissioned Jang Bogo (KSS-I)-class submarine as a bridging solution for crew training. As Janes has learnt, the vessel is expected to be decommissioned from the South Korean navy in 2027 and, after refitting, could be delivered to Poland. Hanwha representatives told Janes that some of the command systems, which will be compatible with the KSS-III Batch 2 vessels, might be installed onboard. Such a solution could help to train Polish crews before the delivery. The leasing would be signed by the Polish and Republic of Korea governments with Hanwha Ocean.

https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/de ... -programme

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Die Rüstungsbehörde hat dem Rady Modernizacji Technicznej die technischen Anforderungen und die Machbarkeitsstudie für das Programm ORKA übermittelt. Derzeit finden zwischen den Ministerien Abstimmungsgespräche im Vorfeld des geplanten Regierungsgeschäfts statt.