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Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Mo 15. Mai 2023, 17:47
von Doppeladler
Rumänien plant vorerst 246 westliche Infantry Fighting Vehicles bis 2031 zu beschaffen. Damit sollen die MLI-84 und MLI-84M, eine Version des BMP-1, ersetzt werden. Budget: 2,54 Mrd. EUR inkl. Dienstleistungen, Simulatoren etc. Nach 2031 sollen nochmals 52 Fahrzeuge zulaufen.

GDELS bingt dafür den ASCOD 42 IFV in Stellung: 42t Gefechtsgewicht, ballistischer Schutz bis Level 5 nach STANAG 4569 und 4a/b Minenschutz. GDELS hat bereits mit dem PIRANHA V samt lokaler Produktion den Fuß in der Tür.
Der Hanwa AS21 Redback aus Korea ist ebenfalls ein heißer Kandidat.

Quellen:
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/ro ... -6338.html
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_te ... -6710.html

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Di 16. Mai 2023, 16:01
von da_mm
In der Slowakei wurde die Bewertung des ASCOD-42-Schützenpanzer herabgestuft, da die Wanne bzw. das Fahrwerk zu viele Vibrationen während der Fahrt verursachte und man nicht davon ausging, dass das Problem in naher Zukunft behoben werden könne.

Dafür hat GDELS-Demonstratorfahrzeug den gleichen Elbit-Turm wie die lokale Version vom Piranha V (der allerdings große Probleme bereitet).

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Do 25. Jan 2024, 10:22
von theoderich
Romanian government readies fighting vehicle, howitzer deals in 2024
Publicly available information suggests the IFV program, under which Romania is to buy up to 298 new vehicles, is worth about €3 billion, or $3.3 billion. Local observers say the Romanian military is expected to choose between South Korea’s Hanwha Aerospace with the Redback, General Dynamics European Land Systems with its Ascod, German Rheinmetall with the Lynx, and the CV90 made by BAE Systems Hägglunds in Sweden, among others.

A spokesperson for the National Defence Ministry told Defense News the award procedure for the vehicle contract is underway, and its signing is expected to take place in 2024.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... s-in-2024/

MLIS

Mașina de luptă a infanteriei pe șenile

Obiectiv
  • dotarea structurilor de forțe mecanizate din componența Forțelor Terestre cu mașini de luptă pe șenile moderne și performante
https://www.dpa.ro/dgarm/programe-de-inzestrare

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Di 21. Mai 2024, 11:14
von theoderich

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Do 23. Mai 2024, 02:13
von theoderich

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Fr 24. Mai 2024, 19:51
von Timor
Zu viel Hoffnung sollte sich General Dynamics eher nicht machen. Angesichts der Konkurrenz mit Cv90,Lynx und dem Redback hat der ASCOD wohl bestenfalls Außenseiterchancen.

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Sa 25. Mai 2024, 16:05
von theoderich
BSDA 2024: Hanwha to offer Redback IFV to Italy and Romania
Hanwha revealed that it intends to enter its Redback tracked infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) into Italian and Romanian competitive IFV procurement programmes at the Black Sea Defense and Aerospace (BSDA) 2024 exhibition held in Bucharest from 22 to 24 May.

In a press release published on 21 May, Billy Boohwan Lee, head of Hanwha Aerospace Europe, claimed that “the Redback IFV solution is expected to help bring a massive manufacturing capability to the Romanian market through active industrial partnerships”. This followed an industry day held on 17 May, in which the company met with representatives from Romanian industry to investigate avenues for potential collaboration in upcoming programmes.

However, in an interview with Janes on the first day of the exhibition, Peter JK Bae, vice-president for business development at Hanwha Aerospace Europe, confirmed that partnerships with Romanian industry had yet to be finalised and that there are currently no arrangements in place for prototypes to be shipped from Australia to Romania for testing.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/land ... nd-romania


BSDA 2024: BAE Systems to pitch AMPV, CV90, and Archer to Romania
BAE Systems has revealed to Janes that it is offering its CV90 tracked infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), Armored Multipurpose Vehicle (AMPV) family of tracked armoured fighting vehicles, and its Archer self-propelled howitzer (SPH) to the Romanian army.

In an interview with Janes on 24 May at the Black Sea Defense and Aerospace (BSDA) exhibition in Bucharest, Paul Zukowski, Director, International Business Development – Europe at BAE Systems, explained that it intends to offer the Romanian army a choice of either the CV90 Mk IV, the AMPV, or potentially both platforms for an anticipated IFV procurement tender.

Janes understands that while the programme's requirements are yet to be finalised and a request for proposal (RFP) has not been issued, the Romanian army is seeking to procure 298 vehicles with variants including IFVs, self-propelled mortars, and command vehicles.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/land ... to-romania




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https://defence-industry.eu/ascod-vehic ... bucharest/

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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gdels_bs ... 87840-Ghln

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Mo 27. Mai 2024, 19:19
von theoderich

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Di 6. Mai 2025, 18:09
von theoderich
In diesem Video sieht man die Integration des Elbit UT30 in den auf der BSDA 2024 vorgestellten ASCOD-Demonstrator. Und zwar bei GDELS-SBS:

https://es.linkedin.com/posts/gdels_gde ... 96738-U_2V

Re: Rumänien: ASCOD im Rennen für neuen Schützenpanzer

Verfasst: Mi 23. Jul 2025, 06:48
von theoderich
Romania, Poland take different tacks on buying new combat vehicles
Local observers say Romanian Ministry of National Defence is to select between Germany’s Rheinmetall with the Lynx, the CV90 made by BAE Systems Hägglunds in Sweden, South Korea’s Hanwha with the AS21 Redback, and General Dynamics European Land Systems with its Ascod, among others. A committee consisting of Defence Ministry officials and representatives of state-owned defense company Romtehnica is to pick the winner.

The Romanian authorities expect that, after an initial batch of 26 vehicles is made by the selected supplier, the country’s state-dominated defense industry will take over manufacturing activities and produce the remaining 220 IFVs.

“The essential security interest for the Romanian state is to protect the supply chain through a technology transfer of the assembly, integration, testing and maintenance capabilities for the aforementioned technology and products to Romania,” the Ministry of National Defence said in a statement.

A spokesperson for the Romanian ministry told Defense News that, when contracting for major acquisitions, one of the institution’s priorities is to maximize the involvement of the country’s defense sector.

“The Ministry of National Defence is interested in increasing the contribution of the national defense industry to the procurement process of the Romanian Armed Forces and in ensuring, at local level, the lifetime maintenance of weapon systems and major equipment,” the spokesperson said.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... -vehicles/


10.07.2025
Informație de presă

https://www.mapn.ro/cpresa/18915_inform ... e-de-presa


HOTĂRÂRE privind aprobarea circumstanțelor si a procedurii specifice aferente Etapei I a programului de Înzestrare „Mașina de lupta a infanteriei, pe senile”-MLI

2025-07-16

https://sgglegis.gov.ro/legislativ/docs ... 4r3svy.pdf

Es sollen Schützenpanzer in fünf unterschiedlichen Konfigurationen beschafft werden:
  • Mașină de lupta a infanteriei - varianta de bază [Schützenpanzer]
  • Mașină de lupta a infanteriei - Punct Comandă Mobil [Führungspanzer]
  • Mașină de lupta a infanteriei - Aruncătorul 120 mm [Granatwerferträger 120 mm]
  • Mașină de lupta a infanteriei - TEHEVAC - Tractor de evacuare-reparații [Bergepanzer]
  • Mașină de lupta a infanteriei - MEDEVAC - Vehicul de evacuare medicală [Sanitätspanzer]
Als Nutzungsdauer werden 20 Jahre angegeben. Die Vertragsdauer soll acht Jahre betragen.

Technologietransfer soll die Produktion folgender Komponenten der Panzerfahrzeuge in Rumänien ermöglichen. Vorerst für 27 Schützenpanzer:
  • Panzerwanne
  • Montage von:
    • Zusatzpanzerung
    • Spall-Liner
    • Sitzen für Panzerbesatzung
    • 5-Punkt-Sicherheitsgurte
  • Waffensystem
    • Turm mit 30 mm-Maschinenkanone
      • Turmgehäuse, Montage der Panzerung, Lackierung des Endprodukts, Richtsystem, Verkabelung, Montagen zur Zusatzsysteme, Ausbalancierung
    • Fernbedienbare Waffenstation mit 12,7 mm-Maschinengewehr
      • Richtsystem, Verkabelung, Montagen für Zusatzsysteme, Ausbalancierung
    • Waffe
    • Beobachtungs- und Sichtsysteme
  • Laserwarnsystem
  • Kommunikations- und Informationssystem
    • Einbau, Integration und Test von Subkomponenten
    • Assemblierung und Einbau der Power Data Unit - PDU und der Communications Switching Box - CSB; Montage der Racks für diese Einheiten und Entwicklung eines Softwarepakets