Re: JAGDKOMMANDO – SOTAC, K9, MASTERBREACHER & CO
Verfasst: Di 5. Mär 2024, 14:44
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Danke für die Info. Vermeine auch dass man sich mit dem Polaris kein Denkmal setzen wird. Warum dann nicht 22 Defenture GRF als Viper Ersatz und für das leichte Infanteriefahrzeug den Caracal? Wäre ein toller Mix! Wer sich den Polaris jetzt unbedingt so einbildet, ist mir echt ein Rätsel. Da höre ich doch vielmehr auf die Truppe!Hallo123 hat geschrieben: ↑Mo 4. Mär 2024, 22:30 Als ich bei den Action Days 2023 in Deutsch Wagram mit aktiven Operatorn der 2. Task Group sprechen durfte, meinte man zu mir, dass man 5 Fahrzeuge zur Erprobung hatte, als Sandviper Ersatz, am schlechtesten soll der Polaris Dagor abgeschnitten haben, der laut den Jungs so massiv schlecht war, dass man doch lieber beim alten Sandviper bleiben würde.
Am besten soll der Defenture GRF gewesen sein, denn der soll am meisten bei jeglichen Tests und Übungen überzeugt haben.
Ab Donnerstag findet übrigens die BEST Messe in Wien statt, wo ebenso das JaKdo einen Stand haben wird, vielleicht hört man da neues.
Vor allem scheint man bei den Tests vor fünf Jahren mit dem GRF 5.12 sehr zufrieden gewesen zu sein.
Dieses Fahrzeug hat in der Truppenerprobung schlecht abgeschnitten. Zumindest ist es im Betrieb zuverlässiger geworden:Verweigerer hat geschrieben: ↑Do 7. Mär 2024, 08:49können neun Soldaten (einschließlich Fahrer) in dem Fahrzeug transportiert werden.
theoderich hat geschrieben: ↑Fr 22. Jan 2021, 23:26
- All vendors’ ISVs are cramped and soldiers cannot reach, stow, and secure equipment as needed, degrading and slowing mission operations. During the STP2, soldiers on all ISVs could not readily access items in their rucksacks without stopping the movement, dismounting, and removing their rucksacks from the vehicle.
- The ISV does not have an underbody and ballistic survivability requirement. The ISV-equipped unit will be susceptible to enemy threats and actions. All ISVs have some design features to reduce a unit’s vulnerability to enemy detection such as speed, and a small, low profile design that minimize their visual detectability. In order for the ISV-equipped unit to avoid threats and traverse terrain that is covered and concealed, the ISV will give up some of its inherent speed advantage.
DOT&E FY 2023 Annual Reporttheoderich hat geschrieben: ↑Mi 29. Jun 2022, 16:44Effectiveness
The ISV is operationally effective as a troop carrier for tactical transport. During IOT&E, a rifle company successfully employed ISVs over wooded and cross-country terrain to maneuver to their objectives and complete missions. The ISV is quiet, agile, and provides an enhanced off-road mobility capability for a nine-man infantry squad with their personal weapons and equipment. The ISV allows an infantry unit to move over extended distances rapidly, reducing fatigue.The ISV is not operationally effective for employment in combat and ESD missions against a near-peer threat, as identified in the Validated Online Lifecycle Threat report. The vehicle lacks the capability to deliver effective fires, provide reliable communication, and force protection. The rifle company equipped with the ISVs did not successfully avoid enemy detection, ambushes, and engagements during a majority of their missions. In order to traverse cross country routes and wooded terrain, the unit was forced to reduce their speed, resulting in slowed movement, or maneuvered on improved routes, negating any element of surprise. During missions, the unit experienced numerous casualties, delaying mission accomplishment and degrading its combat power for follow-on missions. The unit concealed their ISVs and drivers close to the objective and dismounted eight soldiers per vehicle to accomplish missions before recovering their ISVs. This action reduced their combat force, exposed the ISVs and drivers to opposing force attacks, and increased the risk of additional combat losses.
During missions, personal weapons were not easily accessible on the move, degrading the ability of the squad to quickly react to enemy actions and ambushes. While the ISV can mount a swing arm for an M240 machine gun, the ability for the soldier to efficiently employ the weapon on the move was a challenge because the soldier’s field of fire was hindered by trees, foliage, and other obstructions when extending the swing mount. Protracting the swing mount also interfered with seated soldier egress from vehicle.
Communication between soldiers, squad leaders, and platoon leader were intermittent and not reliable on the move, degrading their ability to gain and maintain situational awareness at extended range mission between 62 to 300 miles. The ISV does not have a requirement for a mounted communication capability, so each platoon depended on their manpack and leader radios.
The ISV lacks the capability to carry the required mission equipment, supplies, and water for a unit to sustain itself within a 72-hour period. Units operating for longer durations will need to conduct mission planning, cross level-equipment across the unit, or may require additional ISVs to sustain operations.
https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub ... PUhQ%3d%3dEFFECTIVENESS, SUITABILITY, AND SURVIVABILITY
The Army reliability compliance testing completed in January 2023, consisted of a single ISV driving approximately 5,000 miles over terrain and at speeds consistent with the mission profile. The ISV demonstrated a significant improvement in MMBSA [mean miles between system aborts] when compared to the MMBSA demonstrated during the August 2021 IOT&E, and the developmental testing completed at Yuma Proving Ground.