Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Re: Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Das Rennen hat anscheinend der Patria gemacht..
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Re: Finnland, Estland und Lettland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Finland will purchase heavy Patria 6x6 vehicles (26. April 2024)
Suomi tukee CAVS-ohjelman etenemistä XA-300 panssariajoneuvojen esisarjan myynnillä
https://www.defmin.fi/ajankohtaista/tie ... s#4487a2f6
https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/ne ... vehicles-0The Finnish Defence Forces will purchase heavy Patria 6x6 armoured vehicles from Patria within the Common Armoured Vehicle System (CAVS) programme. The Finnish Minister of Defence Antti Häkkänen has authorised the Finnish Defence Forces Logistics Command to start a serial procurement of heavy armoured personnel carrier 6x6 vehicles from Patria. The first phase of the acquisition will include one pre-series vehicle and 20 Kongsberg’s remote weapon stations which will be integrated in the vehicles. The acquisition will also include an option for additional purchases of 18 vehicles as well as provisions for vehicle outfitting, maintenance, spare parts, and training.
Das finnische Verteidigungsministerium hat entschieden, die drei Vorserienfahrzeuge des XA-300, die zur Erprobung verwendet worden sind, wieder an Patria zu verkaufen, zu einem Preis von ca. 1,8 Mio. EUR:theoderich hat geschrieben: ↑Fr 28. Jan 2022, 21:27The joint 6x6 vehicle programme proceeds: Finland to order pre-series vehicles
Suomi tukee CAVS-ohjelman etenemistä XA-300 panssariajoneuvojen esisarjan myynnillä
https://www.defmin.fi/ajankohtaista/tie ... s#4487a2f6
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Re: Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Germany Signs CAVS Research and Development Agreement
https://www.defmin.fi/en/topical/press_ ... 14289.news
https://www.defmin.fi/en/topical/press_ ... 14289.news
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Re: Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Ist eigentlich bekannt welches Schutzniveau die neu bestellten Patria für Finnland, Lettland etc. nun tatsächlich haben?
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Re: Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
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Patria hat jüngst ein neues Foto eines 6x6 mit Zusatzpanzerung veröffentlicht:
https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/ne ... vehicles-0
Keines der bisher an Lettland, Finnland und Schweden gelieferten Fahrzeuge weist so eine Zusatzpanzerung auf, sondern nur die Grundpanzerung der Fahrzeugwanne. Höchstwahrscheinlich am seitens des Herstellers genannten STANAG 4569 Level 2.
Abgesehen von Schweden haben bisher alle Kunden amphibische Varianten des Patria 6x6 in Auftrag gegeben, das reduziert die Möglichkeiten zur Anbringung von Zusatzpanzerung.
Beachheads and amphibious armour
Patria hat jüngst ein neues Foto eines 6x6 mit Zusatzpanzerung veröffentlicht:
https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/ne ... vehicles-0
Keines der bisher an Lettland, Finnland und Schweden gelieferten Fahrzeuge weist so eine Zusatzpanzerung auf, sondern nur die Grundpanzerung der Fahrzeugwanne. Höchstwahrscheinlich am seitens des Herstellers genannten STANAG 4569 Level 2.
Abgesehen von Schweden haben bisher alle Kunden amphibische Varianten des Patria 6x6 in Auftrag gegeben, das reduziert die Möglichkeiten zur Anbringung von Zusatzpanzerung.
Beachheads and amphibious armour
https://euro-sd.com/2024/03/articles/36 ... us-armour/Amphibious vehicles tread an awkward line in AFV design. Where standard AFVs must balance mobility, firepower, and lethality, an amphibious AFV must balance all of this with the often-contradictory challenges of having to float and steer in water. The design characteristics that make a vehicle perform well on land; a vehicle length-to-track centre ratio of ~1.6, a sloped glacis, and others, are not correlated with good performance at sea.[5] An amphibious vehicle must be watertight and be able to transition from a ship’s well deck to the sea without sinking. This requires a buoyancy reserve of at least 25% of the vehicle’s weight. Ideally, an amphibious vehicle will also be able to self-recover if it rolls 100°, a non-amphibious but water capable vehicle for comparison, should be able to pitch or roll between 5° and 15° without flooding its engine.[6] An amphibious vehicle also needs to be able to turn quickly within its own length and navigate a ‘plunging surf’ with waves up to 3.6 m.
The vehicle should also have two propulsion systems: its tracks or wheels for operation on land, and a system for propulsion at sea. The design also needs to minimise drag in the water, but external appendages such as wheels and tracks add a lot of drag. Some vehicles are propelled by their wheels or tracks, which produces a relatively slow water speed that can be estimated by . Put more simply, it is rare for a vehicle using its wheels or tracks to exceed 10 km/h at sea. True amphibious vehicles typically employ water jets or propellers for propulsion and aim to exceed this by some margin. The former method takes up additional space inside the vehicle, the latter adds drag to the outside. However, water jets generally provide greater speed and manoeuvrability at sea.[7]
The requirements for amphibious AFVs are therefore complicated to a further degree than conventional AFVs. Consider, for example, the impact of protection requirements on an amphibious vehicle. The greater the protection, the greater the vehicle weight. This naturally equates to the requirement for additional automotive performance as it would on land; however, it may also increase vehicle size as the total volume must increase to maintain buoyancy. This in turn will impact manoeuvrability at sea and on land.
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Re: Finnland, Estland, Lettland, Schweden und Deutschland: Beschaffung neuer Mannschaftstransportpanzer Patria 6x6
Das finnische Verteidigungsministerium und Patria haben gestern den Beschaffungsvertrag für CAVS unterzeichnet:theoderich hat geschrieben: ↑Mo 29. Apr 2024, 19:40 Finland will purchase heavy Patria 6x6 vehicles (26. April 2024)
https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/ne ... vehicles-0The Finnish Defence Forces will purchase heavy Patria 6x6 armoured vehicles from Patria within the Common Armoured Vehicle System (CAVS) programme. The Finnish Minister of Defence Antti Häkkänen has authorised the Finnish Defence Forces Logistics Command to start a serial procurement of heavy armoured personnel carrier 6x6 vehicles from Patria. The first phase of the acquisition will include one pre-series vehicle and 20 Kongsberg’s remote weapon stations which will be integrated in the vehicles. The acquisition will also include an option for additional purchases of 18 vehicles as well as provisions for vehicle outfitting, maintenance, spare parts, and training.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/patria_p ... 22592-P14zNow it's official! 🤝 Today, the ceremony was held for signing the agreement related to the previously announced decision of the Finnish Defence Forces Logistics Command for the serial procurement of heavy armored personnel carrier 6x6 vehicles from Patria. 🇫🇮
The first phase of the acquisition will include one pre-series vehicle and 20 Kongsberg remote weapon stations, which will be integrated into the vehicles. The acquisition also includes an option for additional purchases of 18 vehicles.
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