EU startet "European Defence Industrial Development Programme"

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EU hat keine langfristige Strategie für Verteidigungsausgaben
Wie denn auch, wenn die Franzosen darauf drängen, dass alle EU-Gelder innerhalb der EU ausgegeben werden müssen, selbst dann, wenn es der heimischen Industrie an Kapazitäten fehlt? Da ist ja selbst Berlin weniger starrsinnig, und das will etwas heißen.
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Mir kommt es oft so vor, als würden sich die Froschmänner und Germanen mehr gegenseitig behindern als gemeinsam etwas Brauchbares a la long auf die Beine zu stellen. Parallel laufende, nationale Strukturen (man will sich ja nicht komplett nackt vor dem Anderen ausziehen), eigene Industrien, etc. Man kommt immer vom Hundertsten ins Tausendste. Der gemeinsame Nenner klingt zwar nett im Gedanken, nur in der Praxis ist man halt noch immer Meilenweit voneinander entfernt. Dies betrifft etliche Projekte. Und zu spüren bekommt dies, dieser egoistische Eiertanz zweier Nationen (die sich ja so gerne als leading nations in Europa bezeichnen), richtig... GANZ Europa! Und bist du nicht für uns, dann bist du eben gegen uns. Ich kann es nicht mehr hören. Ein geneigter Leser. Aber ich verstehe, was der werte User muck so meint. Zur Zeit überwiegt mehr die Blockade als ein gemeinsames Vorwärtskommen. Es ist einfach nur lähmend. Bitte entschuldigt meine einfachen Worte.
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Die deutsch-französische Verteidigungskooperation hat bis 1990 sehr – und bis in die 2000er halbwegs gut – funktioniert. Es sind die schrumpfenden Etats seither, die zu Verteilungskämpfen führen, und außerdem politische Eigenheiten auf nationaler Ebene.

In Frankreich wird die politische Mitte immer schmaler, und die Ränder versuchen u.a. durch anti-deutsche Ressentiments ihr Profil zu schärfen. Deutschland hingegen fährt eine Außenpolitik der Inkonsequenz und des Trittbrettfahrertums, an der Frankreich mit gutem Grund verzweifelt. Berlin hat viele Versprechungen gemacht und kaum jemals geliefert, sei es im Sahel (wo man Paris hat hängen lassen), sei es bei Projekten wie MAWS, wo man jahrelang zögerte, um dann P-8A zu kaufen.

Vorliegend ist Deutschland nicht ganz unschuldig. Immer hat man gekräht: Kein ITAR! Europäische Autarkie! Letztlich bleibt Frankreich dieser Linie gerade treu. Dass diese Linientreue inzwischen kontraproduktiv ist, steht auf einem anderen Blatt.

Allerdings würde ich bei Ihrer Kritik nur mitgehen, solange sie Sicherheit und Verteidigung betrifft. Beispiele wie die Griechenland-Rettung oder der europäische Pandemie-Rettungsfonds zeigen, dass Deutschland keineswegs ein politisches Übergewicht in Europa besitzt, wie es v.a. die Rechten in Frankreich, Polen und Großbritannien behaupten.
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EDIDP 2020 e-COLORSS – European Common Long Range Indirect Fire Support System

IDE participates in the e-COLORSS project, led by GMV AEROSPACE AND DEFENCE SA.

The project “e-COLORSS” proposes a significant step forward for European long-range artillery through an 155 mm cannon and a European rocket launcher. The vehicle will be based on a hybrid truck mounted platform, ensuring very fast ammunition and charges resupply, and an interoperable, robust and secured communication system.

The e-COLORSS consortium consists of 16 partners from 10 EU Member States.

IDE contributes to hybrid power solutions studies for the e-COLORSS.

This project has received funding from the European Defence Industrial Development Programme (EDIDP) under Grant Agreement No. EDIDP-NGPSC-LRIF-2020-110-ECOLORSS.
https://www.intracomdefense.com/nationa ... -programs/
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EDA-managed project develops demonstrator for intelligent swarm of robots

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theoderich hat geschrieben: Mi 19. Jun 2019, 19:03US officials threaten retribution for European Union’s restrictions on defense fund
The US wants Europe to buy American weapons; the EU has other ideas
At NATO summit after NATO summit, European leaders get a clear public message from Washington — increase spending on defense.

In private, there’s another message that’s just as clear — make sure a lot of that extra spending goes on U.S. weapons.

European leaders are resisting.

“We must develop a genuinely European defense technological and industrial base in all interested countries, and deploy fully sovereign equipment at European level,” French President Emmanuel Macron said at the GLOBSEC conference in Bratislava last month.

The decades of cajoling from Washington are paying off. Although most EU countries aren’t yet meeting NATO’s target of spending 2 percent of GDP on defense, the alliance has seen eight years of steady spending increases. In 2022, spending by European countries was up by 13 percent to $345 billion — almost a third higher than a decade ago — much of it a reaction to Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Now the question is how that money will be spent.

The U.S. wants to ensure that European countries — which already spend about half of their defense purchasing on American kit — don’t make a radical switch to spending more of that money at home.

Some European leaders are hoping that’s exactly what happens, but it’s an open question whether the Continent’s defense industry can make that happen.

“Traditionally, there was a suspicion about a change in Europe’s defense capabilities which dates back more than 25 years,” said Max Bergmann, director of the Europe, Russia, Eurasia Program at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. “What direction would the EU go, would it mean the EU would decouple from NATO, what would the impact be on U.S. defense industrial policy?”

Buying at home

The current tensions in Brussels are over whether new EU-wide defense policy should be limited to EU companies — a position driven by Macron and Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton, a Frenchman. That confirms suspicions stateside about European protectionism when it comes to allowing U.S. companies to compete for EU contracts.

“Our plan is to directly support, with EU money, the effort to ramp up our defense industry, and this for Ukraine and for our own security,” Breton said last month.

But there’s an uncomfortable fact for the backers of European strategic autonomy: When it comes to arms, Europe still depends on the U.S.

While European companies have deep expertise in defense — building everything from France’s Rafale fighter to Germany’s Leopard tank and Poland’s man-portable Piorun air-defense system — the scale of the U.S. arms industry, as well as its technological innovation, makes it attractive for European weapons buyers.

The most common big-ticket item is Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, at a cost of $80 million a pop. There is also an immediate surge in demand for off-the-shelf items like shoulder-fired missiles and artillery shells.
The war in Ukraine has underscored the dominance of the U.S. defense industry.

A host of European countries are buying Javelin anti-tank missiles produced by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin; Poland this year signed a $1.4 billion deal to buy 116 M1A1 Abrams tanks, as well as another $10 billion agreement to buy High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems produced by Lockheed Martin; Slovakia is buying F-16 fighters, while Romania is in talks to buy F-35s.

Those deals are raising fears in Europe over whether they can wean themselves off of U.S. defense suppliers. In one example, France and Germany worry about Spain’s intentions as it kicks the tires on F-35s while also being a partner in developing the European Future Combat Air System jet fighter.

But the need to restock weapons depots and continue shipping materiel to Ukraine is urgent, and after decades of contraction, the Continent’s defense industry is having a difficult time adjusting.

“Our European allies and partners, they’ve never experienced anything like this,” said a senior U.S. Defense Department official, referring to the spasm of spending brought on by Russia’s invasion. The official was granted anonymity to discuss the situation. “They don’t yet have the defense production authorities they need [to move quickly] and they’ve really been looking to us to try to get a handle on how they can increase production, and I think they’re learning a lot from us.”

To help Europe get there, the United States has expanded the number of bilateral security supply arrangements it has with foreign partners since the Russian invasion, signing new agreements with Latvia, Denmark, Japan and Israel since October. These allow countries to more quickly and easily sell and trade defense-related goods and services.

The Biden administration also signed an administrative arrangement with the European Union in late April to establish working groups on supply-chain issues, while giving both sides a seat at the table in internal meetings at the European Defence Agency and the Pentagon.

But there are limits to how far and how fast both sides are able and willing to go.

In the near term, capacity issues and political will means the rhetorical sea change in EU military spending is unlikely to make a huge dent in U.S. military industrial policy.

While the past 18 months have seen a huge spike in defense budgets — Germany announced a special debt-financed fund worth €100 billion after the Russian invasion of Ukraine; Poland’s defense expenditure is set to reach 4 percent of GDP this year — EU-wide projects are facing significant headwinds. European companies say they need longer lead times and long-term contracts to make needed investments.

“You need that visibility and certainty to make those investments. We’re in a chicken game between governments and industry — who are the first ones that are putting the money on the table,” said Lucie Béraud-Sudreau, director of the military expenditure and arms production program at SIPRI.
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-euro ... y-defense/
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AQUILA: MBDA to lead consortium for European interceptor against hypersonic threats

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In March 2023, MBDA was invited with its partners to tender for a concept architecture and technology maturation study of an endo-atmospheric interceptor against the new high end emerging threats.

HYDIS² is the HYpersonic Defence Interceptor Study proposed by MBDA with a consortium bringing together 19 partners and more than 30 subcontractors across 14 European countries

The members of the consortium are defence groups, institutions, SMEs, mid-caps and universities, all with strong, recognised expertise in the key technologies/areas needed for the purpose of the study of such a new interceptor.
The objective of HYDIS² is to design various interceptor concepts and mature the associated critical technologies to deliver the best interception solution that fulfils the four member states needs - France, Italy, Germany and The Netherlands - and copes with the European TWISTER capability programme.
France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands have already confirmed their support and commitment by signing a Letter of Intent and agreeing on Initial Common Requirements.
https://newsroom.mbda-systems.com/aquil ... c-threats/

theoderich hat geschrieben: Mo 29. Nov 2021, 17:44 TALOS
Tactical Advanced Laser Optical System


https://www.talos-padr.eu/
EDA managed TALOS project successfully closed

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TALOS (Tactical Advanced Laser Optical System), a major collaborative defence research project launched under the European Commission’s Preparatory Action on Defence Research (PADR), has successfully closed. The final event took place online on 23 May 2023, with the participation of the members of the consortium, representatives of the European Defence Agency, Ministries of Defence, industry and academia.

The TALOS project aimed to develop a compact design laser able to quickly and precisely neutralise an agile target (i.e. Rocket Artillery and Mortar - RAM, Unmanned Aerial Vehicle - UAV), while significantly minimising collateral damage.

The TALOS project achieved its objectives and developed a compact laser technology for neutralisation of agile targets, while significantly minimising collateral damage. The main results obtained addressed the following areas: CONOPS (Concept of Operations), target vulnerability, laser developments at 2 μm, laser combining technology, ethics and safety, roadmap for European LDEW (Laser Directed Energy Weapon) systems.

The project implementation culminated in the development of two demonstrators: a high power amplifier at eye-safer wavelength and an innovative propagation demonstrator allowing highly efficient coherent combining on target.
TALOS brings together 16 beneficiaries from 9 European countries. Led by CILAS (France), it also includes TNO (Netherlands), Leonardo (Italy), DLR, Airbus Defence and Space, Stelar (Germany), MBDA France, Erdyn Consultants, Université de Limoges, ONERA (France), Ustav Fotoniky a Elektroniky (Czech Republic), Wojskowa Akademia Techniczna, AMS Technologies (Poland), QinetiQ (UK), John Cockerill Defense (Belgium) and AERTEC Solutions (Spain).
https://eda.europa.eu/news-and-events/n ... lly-closed
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Paris Air Show 2023 - Day Two
MBDA announced an 80 mil Euro contract to investigate hypersonic defences

During a Tuesday morning media briefing at the Paris Air Show, European missile manufacturer MBDA announced that it has been appointed to lead a study on countering hypersonic threats.

The HYpersonic Defence Interceptor Study (HyDIS2) is a ‘Concept Phase and Technology Maturation Programme’ for what MBDA refers to as an area protection counter hypersonic interceptor. The initiative is a response to a tender sent by the EC via the European Defence Fund (EDF) and has received 80 mil Euros in funding from the EDF.

Evolving to meet the ever growing perceived threat posed by hypersonic weapons that are in the arsenal of China and Russia, the HyDIS2 consortium will run over three years with the ultimate aim of creating a hypersonic interceptor missile known as Aquila by 2030. France, Germany, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands are key partners with input also coming from Sweden, Finland, Romania, Hungary, and Austria.

MBDA is investigating multiple interceptor designs with different architectures: one two-stage and two three-stage interceptors.

Speaking in the press briefing, Lionel Mazenq, MBDA’s Group Head of Programme Incubator - Future Systems Directorate, explained that current Western defence systems are effective at altitudes either below 30km (high endo-atmospheric) and beyond 40km (exo-atmospheric). This creates a gap of between 30 and 40km, which is precisely where hypersonic weapons travel. As such, only terminal defences are available, which leave very little time for countermeasures at such high speeds. MBDA therefore emphasised the importance of early warning systems and threat path prediction in implementing an effective defence architecture. It aims to use advanced algorithms to infer all possible trajectories and focus on defending critical targets.
https://www.aerosociety.com/news/paris- ... 3-day-two/


MBDA Details Aquila European Hypersonic Interceptor Concept
MBDA—along with 19 partners and 30 subcontractors from 14 European countries—will develop the Aquila concept for the European Defense Fund (EDF)-supported Hypersonic Defense Interceptor Study (HYDIS2) project.

The missile manufacturer’s HYDIS2 proposal is being awarded funding of €80 million ($87.5 million) without a call for proposals in the EDF's 2023 work program. MBDA officials expect to be on contract with European defense materiel agency OCCAR by year's end. Partners on the project include MBDA in France, Germany, Italy and Spain; France’s Roxel and ArianeGroup; Germany’s Bayern-Chemie and OHB; Italy’s Avio Aero; and the Netherlands’ GKN Fokker.

HYDIS2 is set to compete with the Spanish-led HYDEF project. This is headed up by Sistemas de Misiles de España (Spanish Missile Systems)—a conglomerate of several Spanish defense companies—and includes Germany’s Diehl Defense and Nordic company Nammo.
The European Commission opted to double source on the interceptor development because there was no counter-hypersonic missile capability available in Europe.

HYDIS2 is entering the concept phase with “three multistage interceptor architectures,” Rainer Stockhammer, MBDA’s team leader for Twister, tells journalists on the second day of the Paris Air Show here. Two of the architectures to be studied are three-stage, one of which is air-breathing—possibly a ramjet like the Meteor air-to-air missile. The second is a conventional rocket-powered missile with a large booster, while the third is a two-stage weapon with booster. The program will examine and select one of these options for further development at the end of the study.

Some of the elements on the project are at a technology readiness level of one and need to be matured during the work.

“We need to manage to come to a certain technology readiness level to put our nations in a position to start development in three years,” Stockhammer adds.
The hypersonic interceptor is only part of the European effort to develop the Twister system. The EDF is also funding a project called Odin's Eye, backing the initial development of an autonomous European early-warning capability supporting defense against ballistic missiles and hypersonic threats. The 24-month, €7.8 million study is being led by German satellite firm OHB.

Selection of one of the two missiles is expected to follow after the studies. The second phase of development would then be launched and partly funded by the EDF, potentially enabling the first prototype missiles to be ready by 2030. But the cost of a potential hypersonic system could be in the billions, MBDA CEO Eric Beranger warned at the company’s March press conference in Paris.
https://aviationweek.com/shownews/paris ... or-concept


PAS 2023 – MBDA details the HYDIS2 hypersonic defence system programme
That said, in 2023 the European Defence Fund issued an Invitation to Tender to which MBDA responded last May, this being now under evaluation.

Based on that the European missile company launched HYDIS2 (Hypersonic Defence Interceptor Study), a concept and maturation programme lasting three years that sees four nations involved, France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.

MBDA started working on hypersonic defence systems at least five years ago, and it is now developing three missile concept studies, two of them being three-stage interceptors and one a two-sage missile. On their side nations are talking to each other to identify and harmonize requirements, the end state being the selection of one of the proposed configurations that should lead to an operational system in the 2030s.

The four aforementioned nations are the programme partners, among them Spain, Sweden, Finland, Romania, Hungary and Austria, the HYDIS2 programme involving 14 European Union nations, 19 major industrial partners and over 30 SMEs. All players planned to gather at Le Bourget on Day 2 of the Paris Air Show for a kick off meeting that will mark the start of the programme.
What is quite clear is that the agility in the final attack phase, which will be head-to-head, will be hybrid, as at certain altitude the thin air does not allow aerodynamic surfaces to generate the required forces, hence thrusters will be used; MBDA experts underlined however that these will have to interact with the air still existing, which is not the case in space vessels that travel in the void. They also underlined that some technology bricks are in their infancy, TRL 1-2, without specifying more.

The 80 million Euro provided by the European Defence Fund will definitely not be sufficient to reach the end of the programme, the four nations certainly adding some to allow its completion. The HYDEF2 results will be exploited to advance the PESCO Twister programme, and more precisely the effectors segment.
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/mbda-details ... -programme
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