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Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Wehrtechnik & Rüstung, Gemeinsame Außen- und Sicherheitspolitik
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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 08. Dez 2014, 18:40

Companies Submit Final Proposals for Denmark Armored Vehicles

One of Europe’s most important armored vehicle export contests moved closer to resolution today when four manufacturers delivered best and final offers covering five different platforms to the Danish Ministry of Defence.

Numbers are uncertain at this stage. Denmark included options for 206,360 and 450 machines built in six configurations in their requirements.

Industry executives reckon the current focus appears to be leaning toward an initial buy of 206 machines.

The competition pits tracked contenders BAE Systems Hagglunds with its CV90 Armadillo, Flensburger Fahrzeugbau Gesellschaft (FFG) with the PMMC G5, and General Dynamics European Land Systems ASCOD against 8x8 wheeled rivals Nexter with the Vehicule de Combat d’Infanterie (VBCI) and General Dynamics with the Piranha V.

BAE, FFG and Nexter confirmed they have submitted a final offer. General Dynamics declined to comment.

One industry executive said the competition is important in its own right because it’s a buyer’s market for armored vehicles in Europe right now, but winning the deal could also have wider significance.

“The contract could be a potential gateway into a market for the large number of M113s coming up for replacement; a good chunk of those will involve high-end users like the Danes,” said the executive, who asked not to be named.

One French source said there was informal feedback that the wheeled vehicles outperformed the tracked during a 17-week trial of all the vehicles last year.

That view needs to be balanced by pictures that appeared on the web last year of a French Army VBCI stuck in sand during operations in Mali.

Other executives said there was no indication from the Danes about which vehicles performed well and which performed poorly.

All three tracked contenders used rubber band tracks during the trials rather than conventional steel. Although the rubber tracks were not mandated they are an option in the Danish requirement.

The Danes have experience with the new track material during operations in Afghanistan.

Rubber tracks make life easier for the occupants of the vehicle and the vehicles themselves by reducing vibration as well as other performance benefits.

The Danes have previously said they wouldn’t split the buy between tracks and wheels, and industry executives spoken to by Defense News said there was no indication that policy was about to change.

Denmark’s Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organisation (DALO) had hoped to have the contractor selected by now, but plans to make a decision earlier this year were blown off course, in part due to drawn out discussions between the Danes and the European Union over what the offset package for the vehicle could look like under tightened regulations.

A spokesman for DALO said new guidelines for defense sector offsets had come into force in July.

If the procurement process stays on target, the winning supplier could be named and under contract by the end of May 2015.

The spokesman said the armored vehicle has “ a current in service date of around 2018.”


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 16. Dez 2014, 16:16

Nexter, Hydrema sign VBCI partnership agreement

Nexter has signed a partnership agreement with Hydrema as it seeks to strengthen its industry ties with Denmark ahead of a decision from the Danish Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organisation (DALO) on its APC replacement programme.

Nexter’s VBCI is currently under consideration for the programme to replace the Danish Army's M113-series tracked vehicle fleet.

If the VBCI vehicle is selected for the programme, Nexter will support Hydrema in the set-up and operation of a production line in its Støvring facility, where the final assembly and integration of the Danish VBCI will be performed.

Under an existing agreement, Hydrema will also perform the in-country logistic support of Nexter’s CAESAR self-propelled howitzer in the event that CAESAR is selected by DALO as part of its on-going artillery competition.

Nexter has been working to establish a strong team of suppliers in Denmark, with nearly 40 Danish companies being pre-selected as suppliers or already integrated into Nexter’s global supply chain, including TenCate, Prodan, AKS, Multicut, Linak, and Weibel.


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von Alarich » 17. Dez 2014, 01:08


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 04. Jan 2015, 13:09


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 13. Mär 2015, 08:57


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La empresa General Dynamics European Land Systems, en la que se integró la empresa española Santa Barbara Sistemas, que gestiona entre otras las fábricas de armas de Trubia (Asturias) y Sevilla, muestra en su stand de Homsec la variante de su blindado ASCOD que opta al concurso para la fabricación de 206 blindados para el gobierno danés.

Este vehículo de combate de cadenas es una variante del Pizarro, que la empresa fabrica para el Ejército de Tierra (ET), modificada para cumplir los requisitos de Dinamarca, lo que le ha hecho pasar de las 22 toneladas a las 35, sobre todo debido al incremento de su protección. El vehículo expuesto viene provisto del nuevo sistema de suspensión y las cadenas de plástico requeridas por el programa danés, que facilitan su desplazamiento en zonas urbanas, al no dañar el pavimento.


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 27. Apr 2015, 21:46

General Dynamics European Land Systems and Sky-Watch partner to explore future opportunities for UAV technology in the battlefield



New applications for Danish world-class cooling technology


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von Alarich » 27. Apr 2015, 22:35

Hallo Theoderich
Kettenfahrzeuge gibt da auch schon was oder sind Kettenfahrzeuge nicht mehr im Gespräch

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 27. Apr 2015, 23:53

Es gibt tatsächlich Neuigkeiten - die Auswahl eines neuen Mannschaftstransportpanzers dürfte kurz bevorstehen. Am Donnerstag soll die Entscheidung des FMI bekanntgegeben werden:


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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 01. Mai 2015, 09:40

Piranha 5 er Hærens nye pansrede mandskabsvogn (30. April 2015)

Med anskaffelsen af Pirhanha 5 kan Hæren reducere antallet af PMV-typer. Det vil lette den logistiske understøttelse på både mekaniker- og reservedelsområdet, og det vil forenkle uddannelsen, hvis soldater kun skal uddannes på en og samme type PMV. Ydermere bliver det lettere at omfordele køretøjer mellem enheder, når alle er uddannet på samme køretøj. Både mellem enheder under uddannelse herhjemme og enheder udsendt til internationale operationer.

Piranha 5 opfylder alle Hærens krav

Piranha 5 opfylder alle de krav, Hæren har stillet til en moderne pansret mandskabsvogn. Den er rummelig og kan transportere op til 12 soldater med personlig udrustning og øvrigt materiel. Beskyttelsen er på højde med, og på nogle områder bedre end, de lånte MRAP-køretøjer, som danske soldater har anvendt i Afghanistan.

Piranha 5 er fleksibel og har et solidt udviklingspotentiale med et nuværende vægtoverskud på cirka to tons. Den kan dog uden yderligere opgraderinger indsættes i de klimaområder, som danske soldater forventes at kunne operere i. I Arktis vil den det meste af året kunne køre i kystnære områder, hvor befolkningen bor, såfremt underlaget kan bære og er fremkommeligt for pansrede køretøjer med hjul.

Pansret mandskabsvogn med hjul

Piranha 5’s køreegenskaber er sammenlignelige med bæltekøretøjernes, selv i vanskeligt terræn. Den har en vadeevne på op til to meter og en spændvidde på mere end to meter.

Bæltekøretøjer er bedre til sneberedskab, og derfor er det også bæltekøretøjer, man ser anvendt civilt i skisportsområder og ved forskningsstationer i snerige områder. Piranha 5’s fleksible indretningsmuligheder og store frihøjde på 55 centimeter gør, at den alligevel kan bruges i sneberedskabet, eventuelt med snekæder.

En af de store fordele ved pansrede hjulkøretøjer som Piranha 5 er, at de oftest selv kan køre fra stedet, hvis en sprængning har ødelagt et eller flere hjul, hvorimod et bæltekøretøj skal bjærges, hvis bæltet er sprængt.

Piranha 5 kan ikke centrumvende, men den har en beskeden venderadius, fordi den styrer på tre aksler (1, 2 og 4). I bymiljøer kan den vende på en vej, hvis der er otte meter mellem kantstenene og på grund af den store frihøjde er der mindre risiko for, at undervognens bund går på murbrokker eller sten og risikerer at sidde fast.


With the acquisition of Pirhanha 5 the Army can reduce the number of PMV-types. It will facilitate the logistical support on both maintenance- and spare parts area and will simplify the training, because soldiers only need to be trained on the same type of PMV. Furthermore, it becomes easier to redistribute vehicles between units, when everyone is trained on the same vehicle. Both between the units in training at home and units deployed to international operations.

Piranha 5 meets all Army requirements

Piranha 5 meets all the requirements, the Army has made to a modern armored personnel carrier. It is spacious and can carry up to 12 soldiers with personal equipment and other equipment. The protection is equal to, and in some areas better than the borrowed MRAP vehicles that Danish soldiers have used in Afghanistan.

Piranha 5 is flexible and has a strong development potential with a current weight excess of approximately two tons. It may, however, without additional upgrades, be inserted in the climate areas that Danish soldiers are expected to operate in. In the Arctic, it will the most of the year run in coastal areas where people live where the ground can bear and is passable for armored wheeled vehicles .

Armored personnel carrier with wheels

Piranha 5's driving characteristics are comparable with tracked vehicles, even in difficult terrain. It has a tidal power of up to two meters and a span of over two meters.

Tracked vehicles perform better on snow, and therefore it is also tracked vehicles, if you look to civilian uses in ski resorts and at research stations in snowy areas. Piranha 5's flexible design options and high ground clearance of 55 centimeters means that it still can be used in snow environment, possibly with snow chains.

One of the major advantages of armored wheeled vehicles as Piranha 5 is that they often can run from the site when a blast has destroyed one or more wheels, while a tracked vehicle has to be recovered if a belt is blown.

Piranha 5 is unable to turn in the center, but it has a small turning radius because it controls three shafts (1, 2 and 4). In urban environments it can turn on a road, if there are eight meters between curbs and because of the high ground clearance, there is less risk that the lorry bed goes on rubble or stone and risks getting stuck.




Wammen: Forsvaret skal have nye pansrede mandskabsvogne

Der skal minimum anskaffes 206 nye pansrede mandskabsvogne, men det præcise antal vil blive fastlagt på et senere tidspunkt.


Es werden mindestens 206 neue gepanzerte Mannschaftstransporter beschafft, wobei die genaue Zahl zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt festgelegt wird.



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Anbefaling om typevalg for PMV-E

Evalueringen af de modtagne tilbud har ført frem til, at Piranha 5 fra General Dynamics European Land Systems - Mowag GmbH bedst opfylder de danske krav til fremtidens pansrede mandskabsvogn.



Her er den så: Danmarks nye PMV (30. April 2015)

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von iceman » 01. Mai 2015, 11:17

Die Dänen sind aber schon piranha-nutzer?
Man kann nur noch neidisch werden:
Die Dänen bekommen neue Radpanzer und wir Pick-ups.

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 01. Mai 2015, 12:16

Denmark selects Piranha V, halts artillery buy


iceman hat geschrieben:Die Dänen sind aber schon piranha-nutzer?


Das stimmt. Das dänische Heer verfügt über 118 "Piranha IIIC", die ab 1995 eingeführt worden sind. Die erste Tranche bestand aus 22 MTPz, die zweite aus 96 Fahrzeugen in einer verbesserten Konfiguration (Neuer Motor, stärkeres Chassis und stärkere Federung; Varianten: Ambulanz, Logistik, Infanterie [Aufklärung, Kompaniekommandant, Kampfunterstützung, Elektronische Kampfführung, Luftunterstützung/Forward Air Controller]).

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iceman hat geschrieben:Man kann nur noch neidisch werden:
Die Dänen bekommen neue Radpanzer und wir Pick-ups.


Obendrein verpassen wir unseren paar Radpanzern ein "Endlife-Upgrade", das dazu führen wird, dass sie voraussichtlich sowohl Mobilität als auch Nutzlast einbüßen. Und wir splitten sie zwischen zwei Verbänden auf, um landespolitische Interessen zu befriedigen. Hauptsache man muss nichts in eine langfristige Lösung investieren.

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 11. Dez 2015, 23:37

309 nye pansrede mandskabsvogne

Der er i dag truffet politisk beslutning om, at Forsvaret skal købe 309 nye pansrede mandskabsvogne af typen Piranha 5.


Today the political decision was made, that the Armed Forces shall buy 309 new armored personnel carriers of the type Piranha 5.

Piranha 5 vandt Forsvarets udbud allerede tidligere på året, og den efterfølgende periode er brugt til at bestemme det endelige antal samt hvilke varianter der skal købes.

Kontrakten mellem Forsvaret og General Dynamic European Land Systems – MOWAG giver mulighed for, at Forsvaret kan købe flere køretøjer.

Forsvaret modtager efter planen de første af de nye Piranha 5 køretøjer i løbet af 2018. Derefter skal personellet uddannes på de nye køretøjer, inden de tages i brug ved enhederne fra 2019. De sidste af de 309 PMV’er forventes fuldt indfasede i Forsvaret i 2023. I den mellemliggende periode videreføres et antal af de nuværende pansrede mandskabsvogne, så alle enheder kan være udrustede med PMV’er til deres uddannelse.

- Antallet dækker Hærens strukturelle behov, og er højt nok til, at vi i løbet af nogle år kan udruste enhederne i reaktionskampgrupperne og de fleste andre enheder i hæren med de nye køretøjer, mens der vil være få enheder, som i begyndelsen af deres uddannelsesperiode vil være udstyret med en af de nuværende PMV-typer, mest sandsynligt PIRANHA IIIC. Nu begynder arbejdet med at se på en konkret plan for at tage de nye køretøjer i brug, siger chefen for Hærstaben, generalmajor H.C. Mathiesen.


Piranha 5 won the Armed Forces' tender earlier this year, and the subsequent period was used to determine the final number as well as the variants to be purchased.

The contract between the Armed Forces and General Dynamics European Land Systems - MOWAG provides for that the Armed Forces can buy more vehicles.

The Armed Forces should receive the first of the new Piranha 5 vehicles during 2018. Then the personnel is trained on the vehicles before they are used by units from 2019. The last of the 309 APCs is expected to be fully phased in the Army in 2023. In the intervening period the current armored personnel carriers will be continued, so that all units can be equipped with APCs for training.

- The number covers the structural needs of the Army, and is high enough that in a few years it can equip units in reaction battle groups and most other units of the army with the new vehicles, while there will be a few units, to be equipped with one of the current PMV-types, most likely Piranha IIIC, at the beginning of their training period. Work will now begin to look at a concrete plan to take the new vehicles in use, said the head of Hærstaben, Major General HC Mathiesen.




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Bei der Angebotseinholung (für 360 Stk.) ist ein Bedarf von 206 - 450 Radpanzer angemeldet worden. Man hat sich also ziemlich in der Mitte (328) getroffen.

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 17. Dez 2015, 18:42

Denmark-Ballerup: Armoured personnel carriers

2015/S 244-443533

Contract award notice for contracts in the field of defence and security

Supplies



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Re: Neue Mannschaftstransportpanzer für Dänemark

Beitrag von theoderich » 08. Mär 2016, 11:47

Denmark-Ballerup: Military electronic systems

2016/S 047-078123

Prior information notice for contracts in the field of defence and security

Supplies


II.1) Title attributed to the contract by the contracting authority/entity:

Remote Controlled Weapon Stations.

II.4) Short description of nature and scope of works or nature and quantity or value of supplies or services:

Technical dialog /market survey:

    The Danish Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organization (hereinafter referred to as DALO) plans to invite tenders for a framework agreement regarding the acquisition of Remote Controlled Weapon Stations (hereinafter referred to as RCWS) and is therefore looking for information on how to structure a possible future tender. As a part of the preparation DALO would like to invite potential contractors to discussions (technical dialogue, cf. preamble 49 to the Defence and Security Sector Directive) regarding the framework agreement for the purpose of gathering information to be used for the preparation of tender documents.

    The purpose of this request for information (RFI) is to understand how the best possible tender can be arranged both for DALO and the suppliers according to the EC regulations. It should be stressed that this notice is not a call for tender and participation in the discussions will not be required for later participation in the possible future tender.
    The discussions are currently expected to take place in the period from the date of dispatch of this notice until May 2016. DALO plans to conduct the discussions via Mercell Sourcing Services, however, DALO may decide to host meetings with participants.

    DALO wishes to enter a framework agreement regarding the acquisition of RCWS, including a sustainment agreement covering spare parts and technical support. By a RCWS DALO understands a complete weapon station consisting of 3 main components

      a) the part outside the vehicle exclusive of weapon and sensors (the base)

      b) sensors or sensor package and

      c) the man machine interface (MMI) with display, control handle(s) and other controls.


    DALO also wishes with this RFI to explore the possibilities of entering a framework agreement that covers RCWS for the Danish Army, Navy and Special Forces.



ANSKAFFELSE AF NY HALVAUTOMATISK 120 MM TUNG MORTER

UDBUD: Projektet for anskaffelse af femten nye 120 mm Tunge Morterer til indbygning i Piranha 5 har i ugerne 44 og 45 afholdt verifikationstest sammen med tilbudsgiverne. I verifikationstesten deltog ildstøtteeksperter fra Hærens Kamp- og Ildstøttecenter som de brugerfaglige repræsentanter med opgaven at gennemføre store dele af testen. Derudover deltog også projektleder fra Piranha 5-projektet med opgaven at afklare integrationsmulighederne med den kommende køretøjsplatform. Der er to tilbudsgivere tilbage i udbuddet.


Procurement of a new semi-automatic 120 mm heavy mortar

The project for the purchase of fifteen new 120 mm heavy mortars for integration in the Piranha 5 has held verification tests with the bidders in weeks 44 and 45. Fire support experts from the Army's Combat and Fire Support Center participated in the verification tests as well as professional representatives with the task to implement large parts of the test. In addition, also project leader of the Piranha 5 project participated with the task to clarify the integration possibilities of the future vehicle platform. There are two bidders left in the tender.


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